What Do We Really Know About Betsy DeVos?

Submitted by: thezigrat 2 months ago News & Politics

Betsy DeVos wants guns in school to protect against "incidental grizzlies." Her background is a wash with illegal contribution scandals and her investment holdings are more fishy than the Trumps. She never attended a public school, never held a job in the field of education, and wishes to get rid of public schools favor of private, religious schools. One look at this video is all it takes to question her intentions.

She is a big proponent of Citizens United and wants to do away with ALL forms of abortion and limits women's health care. She is also against granting LGBT community any rites.

Salon put together a nice little list of controversies surrounding DeVos. She's another disaster in the making, on the same level as the Immigrant Ban and "the wall."



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Female 7,865
Best way to get a school to up its game?? Proven time after time- get wealthy middle class parents to send Jemima and Joshua there- within four weeks they get the playground weeded, give them a year the violin lessons and the Paris trips are organised, by year five they've remodeled the gym, arranged a bursary programme and got Greek back on the syllabus. You don't get this if they can send the precious brats to a school ten minutes in the Merc away
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You people also understand that this De Vos idiot is an advocate of a voucher program right? IE Each parents has X amount of money that they can then use towards public school, or to cut the cost of private school. It would decimate public education. It would benefit the rich only, which isn't much of a surprise since De Vos has never seen the inside of a public school in her life, nor have any of her kids. 
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Male 37,253
pleasestop You are ignorant or stupid. Probably both. 
My city and Province have effectively had 'vouchers' for decades now, it has only provided positive results. Nothing negative at all, zero.
Marginal schools either innovated or were shut down. Private schools got funding and give top-notch education to those enrolled. 
The parents PAY FOR it, why should un-elected bureaucrats tell them what is best for their own children? hum?
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Male 7,630
pleasestop Lord knows we wouldn't want the public schools be forced to be competitive
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Male 6,418
megrendel I don't get how Betsy's plan accomplishes that,  but go ahead.
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Male 7,630
normalfreak2 Simple:

There is no debate that a student has a much higher chance of getting a better education at a private school over a public school. The numbers back it up. Private schools have higher graduation rates, higher rates of student going to college and higher average scholarship offers.

Many parents have no alternative than sending their kids to public schools due to affordability.  So public schools are guaranteed the income with little or no competition.

When you have little or no competition, you don't actually have to perform well.  (Think Comcast customer support). You're most peoples only option so hey, you're getting the money any way.  Doesn't matter if your graduation rate is low, dropout high and literacy?  Who cares!

Now, give the parents the ability to choose a better school, and take their tax dollars with them to help with costs...and all of a sudden the performance of public schools becomes important. 

They will need to ATTRACT students, will have to give the parents a reason to enroll their kids there.  The ONLY way to that is up the performance of the school. Increase the graduation rate, the GPA..and show they actually give a damn. (and, in the process, manage to shake off a lot of the unnecessary bullshit)

So, introducing competition will require both public and private should to perform better.
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Male 6,418
There is no debate that a student has a much higher chance of getting a better education at a private school over a public school. The numbers back it up. Private schools have higher graduation rates, higher rates of student going to college and higher average scholarship offers.

If you compare the best schools of both public and private to each other Public does better.  If you are comparing against low income Private is better.  

http://www.greatschools.org/gk/articles/comparing-private-public-school-test-scores/

https://www.aei.org/press/charter-schools-vs-traditional-public-schools/

Charter schools are both good and bad, because for every good one you find you can show 4-5 that are not doing well and vice versa.  They are good when they are regulated and required to be transparent.
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Male 6,418
pleasestop I know Public schools aren't perfect but they for the most part work.  Where they don't work is in the inner city but that's partially because of how we fund schooling.  We fun it via property taxes and you really can't tax the poor, that's why their schools suck.  We need a better way of funding schools.
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Male 4,942
you better believe that if she is appointed she would Insure that Creationism and Abstinence Only would be taught rather than science and sex ed and "Alternative Facts" would be the lesson of the day.
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Male 4,392
My biggest beef with the voucher system is the government should not be paying to teach religion of any kind - that goes against everything our forefathers created. Make a strict rule that religious institutions get zero public funding and we can start a constructive dialog about helping to fund private schools. The money that religious organizations don't have to pay in taxes should more than cover any schooling they want to supply. 

Crossed out that line since it makes it seem as if I am for the voucher system. I am 100% against that program. If your public school is so bad that you feel your only option is to send your kid to private school then we need to fix the problems in the public school. A proper education should not be just for the rich.
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Male 1,329
More important than this article:  Sometimes I use my left hand instead of my right.
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Male 4,392
insaneai At least it's a job, if in name only.
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Male 4,942
insaneai ever try the Stranger technique?
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Male 1,329
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Male 4,942
insaneai You sit on your hand till it goes numb then you...
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Male 37,253
insaneai Don't ask dude! Lolz!
And yes, this article is just liberal-left masturbation. They only like to circle-jerk. All day long, all night long, wanking is all the liberal-left has going for them now.
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Male 1,329
Point of clarification:  Some times I use my left hand to hold my coffee, some times I use my right.

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Male 37,253
We know the liberal left hate her, the Unions hate her and most importantly of all the Democrats hate her. No real reasons, just hate.
She must be the best candidate for the position, bar none!
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Male 4,942
5cats Did you even listen to her hearing?
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Male 6,418
Only ignorant, stupid, and/or partisan people think she's a good choice.
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normalfreak2 5cats loves her! 
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Male 4,392
She is the absolute worst of the bunch. There is no way this grossly unqualified nominee will have the votes. There are a couple GOP members in the Senate who are already saying no way. Two is all they need to get to 49.
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Male 4,942
markust123 Two already said no to her vote
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Male 3,288
markust123 I don't know, a lot of my federal and local tax burden is for a pretty bad school system. I'd like to see some major changes, a much more privatized system and for the necessary public system some type of tuition payment from the parents. Maybe take some of their tax refunds they get for claiming their children since it is to help with raising them and I see no better use of some of that money, anything so that the parents will feel they have something invested in their kids education, maybe pay more attention to it.
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Male 4,392
trimble You would be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't want to see major changes to the public school system, but sending someone from Special Ed to "fix" things is only going to make the situation worse.
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Male 4,942
markust123 Special Ed would do a better job
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Male 4,392
trimble Your response has legitimately confused me. It sounds like you are saying that taxes should go to the private schools and the public schools should be paid for with tuition? Please tell me you just wrote that wrong.
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Male 1,405
Seems like markust123 saying that the best way to solve a bad education system is for education to become a paid for privilege for those who are able and willing to pay for it--not a right.
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Male 4,942
bliznik Actually it is Trimble seems like he is suggesting that
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Male 1,405
thezigrat @markust123 Oops, I copied and pasted the wrong username. My bad!
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Male 4,942
bliznik I noticed that often when I reply to a comment the wrong name shows in the text box and I have to correct it manually 
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Male 4,392
thezigrat Yeah, I am way anti-voucher.
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Male 37,253
markust123 Then you are either ignorant or an idiot. Probably both.
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Male 1,166
I know she's a great contributor to the GOP, has absolutely no qualifications for the position, and lives on a steady diet of puppies and bunny rabbits...
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Male 4,942
doiknowyou First two parts correct but the diet? possibly
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Male 1,150
What we know is:
1) inner city school systems are a dismal joke, and do not serve minorities or the poor well
2) Unions want things to stay just the way they are, with the government throwing money at the problem
3) Ms. Davos has a new idea for a solution, and everyone who is sucking on the government teet is in an uproar about it
4) that kind of is solid proof she should be voted in!
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Male 1,405
spanz She has a new idea for a solution yet she knows very little about the old system that she is using her new solution to replace.

Yah, sounds like a transition that can only benefit American students. Because new is ALWAYS better, amirite?
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Male 37,253
bliznik She 'knows little' you say? And you know this how? Because a single 'trap question' wasn't perfectly answered?
And there is NO way on this Earth to learn more, or to hire knowledgeable advisors and staff, NONE! Un-possible! Never in all history...

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Male 4,942
5cats She could not answer any of the questions, not even the simplest one at the hearing. The answers she did give were just absurd. Especially the guns for incidental grizzlies. 
I love that answer.
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Male 1,405
5cats

...and her inexperience working in the field of education as compared to all previous Education Secretaries.

She may be able to become competent or hire competent people. But her current resume and her interviews showed that she was not competent when she was put in front of Congress...despite all the time she could have been using to prepare for the hearing.
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Male 3,288
spanz 5). People can just keep on pissin' and moanin' but Clinton is not our President and that is a very good thing.
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Male 4,942
trimble And a Bannon controlled, Putin Luv'n Umpalumpa is?
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