The Election Was Economics VS. Social Rights

Submitted by: lalapancakes 5 months ago Lifestyle News & Politics

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Let’s talk privilege and also who the fuck is sick of talking privilege? This gal. Yes, I understand the concept and think it does exist but I’ve never been fully on board with its blanket application. And yes, in a way it is liberating to point reality out for everyone but in another way, it's use can be seen as isolating and limiting. One of the most offensive rants I’ve ever heard on privilege actually came from a black bisexual woman on the radio, recently, as she shrieked down a Muslim woman for daring to not support Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Her argument was just fucking crude. She was pissed off at the Muslim girl for having the audacity to vote for her Muslim family’s safety over LGBQT and black rights. The Muslim woman quietly and kindly explained she didn’t want to see another one of her family’s villages burnt to a crisp from the bombs supported by the Clinton war machine. The other lady just freaked out and shut the Muslim down. It was fucking embarrassing.

To not vote for Clinton because you're terrified of the bombs she will drop on your family is a pretty fucking legitimate reason so you have to ask between an angry LGBQT black woman and a Muslim woman, where is that line of privilege? Who gets to define it? From my perspective, the caste system of privilege should fall along the lines as the person with the most to lose gets the most to say. And yes I am not lost to the irony on how being white gives me a higher place in this game of cat and mouse. Again, I’m not discrediting the reality of privilege. It does exist but is it not fluid? Personally, my only motto on the concern for Civil Rights is don't ask for equality if you're behaving like you're above any other group or demographic. This, I believe, is how the neo-left lost this 2016 election to the neo-right. A sarcastic bully for us moderates!

With this concept of privilege and the election and now an international rise in white supremacy, to think the election ran on anything but issues of privilege would be a full mistake. Sure we have to stare down those “heils” in Maggianos and the swastika’ing of Beastie Boy, Adam Yauch’s park in New York but even though there’s an element of racism that backed Trump, I’ve said it before, there’s another element of those who just want the economics of living to make sense. And to them that takes precedent over this fluid concept of “privilege.” From an economic perspective you have to ask - who the fuck has privilege over another, here? The answer is - barely anyone. This will be true, especially after Trump’s tax bracket collapsation.

The bottom line of what I want to say here is the Trump election comes down to two kinds of thought. There were those who wanted human and social rights, whether it be for fucked up nationalism or LGBQT rights, and then there were those who just wanted a fixed economy. The irony here is classism is a unifying social issue, which neither sets of neos are willing to see. Another more brutal irony is Trump is most likely not going to save America's economy. How the fuck do you expect 20-years of hemorrhaging jobs to fix itself in four years? And how would anyone expect someone with six bankruptcies, who is also presumably in the pocket of Russia, to even have the capability of managing such an issue?

The final irony is it wouldn’t have mattered who won. Hillary would have ignored Standing Rock, perpetuated international war, installed more lobbyists into the government, and mocked rape victims in the same capacity Trump and his party are doing. The basic gist of the 2016 election comes down to two schools of thought. We have people who wanted a stronger economy. We have people who wanted stronger social rights. Neither are wrong... well Naziism is wrong but of the Civil Rights vs. Economic debacle, I seriously doubt either of these wishes are going to come true.

There are 9 comments:
Male 286
Taking the money out of politics (admittedly, no small task) is the only solution. Raise corporate (or even my taxes, fuck it) to fund everyone's campaign. The only people they'll be beheld to will be the public.
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Male 8,025
Dear straight white men, let's try to be understanding. Let's be understanding that it might be a little scary right now for black people, for hispanic people, for muslim people, for gay people. Hopefully those fears will turn out to be nothing. RIght now they are legitimate though. I know as a straight white man it can often feel like others piss and moan too much. Like there is "reverse racism". Like we're the only group that doesn't get to be proud. Why aren't there united caucasian scholarship funds? Why isn't there W.E.T on cable? Why don't ALL lives matter? I used to feel that way. Then I actually got into the world and saw the institutionalized discrimination in this country. The other groups need their extras here and there. Even with them they don't get up to even. I might not be a racist mother fucker. You might not be a racist mother fucker. They are out there though. Let's try to be understanding.
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Male 1,255
Everything you've written in response to this is beautiful. Thank you, @HolyGod.
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Male 8,025
Can we FUCKING GET ALONG now? We on "the left" need to accept and publicly say that not everyone who voted for Trump is a misogynist or a bigot or a racist, not even most. You on "the right" need to accept that a metric fuck ton of them are. These are not "false flags". The white supremacists in this country came out in droves for Trump and now they feel this is their coming out party. We need your help. We need you to purge them from your ranks. We need you to publicly say that maybe they are the ones we should be putting in internment camps. There were LEGITIMATE reasons to vote Trump. You thought Hillary was worse (for legitimate reasons not bullshit like Benghazi and Emails). You think he will bring back jobs with trade negotiations (maybe he will, let's hope). You think he will be tougher on terrorists (I can't imagine why, but OK). Can the sane people on both sides come together and start agreeing on what is and isn't bullshit in their own "team"? I've watched most of my friends and fellow IABers on the right try downplay racism throughout the last 8 years. Can we now admit maybe its a bigger problem then we all thought and maybe its what Trump rode to victory?
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Male 1,906
Dude, the nation is dying, it's on its last legs, and many outsiders of the nation can see it. This is because of the confusion that the leadership allowed (and allows), which is now deeply rooted into the nations psyche. For example, with racism, it should have been resolved at the end of the civil war in 1865, or at the very latest 100 years later with the civil rights movement. But over half a century after that (today), racism is still ongoing, being sensationalized as a 'topic of discussion' by the media and those with power, all for the purpose of weakening people with division. They know people aren't born racist, it's a learned construct, and that is why your nation teaches the division in its classrooms, and in its media. It's also why "racisim" is continually being talked of there, like a 90 year old man still going on how little jimmy in the 1st grade stole his lunch one Thursday afternoon 85 years ago. It's a division that weakens people as a whole, preventing them from instigating real change, and it's insanity. It's like your 'i'm left, and left is always correct and just' mentality, comparing it to your perception that 'right is wrong and needs to do x, y, & z'. You can't call people to come together, but be unwilling to compromise your 'leftness' or even be aware that it too could have issues you might not be willing (or able) to see. But anyway, back to the point - the nation is dying because foolish divisions like that are far too deeply ingrained for any 'gathering together' to resolve, since people who were trained their entire lives that these divisions are normal and necessary will fight to continue them. Your best chance at this juncture is to completely dismantle your government, and start anew. Not coming together to "recognize racism is a problem", but recognize that the governance has failed, and the time is now to exercise your right to abolish it, salvage what you can, and start anew. You can wait to see if the new Trumpelstiltskin will do anything, but it's more likely more of the same old will continue to fail the people, while strengthening the lines of division to weaken the people's ability to bring about the necessary change (that is their right and duty outlined in their own declaration of independence). You can "hemm" and "haww" all you want, but time's-a-ticking, and with the world watching, it's just a matter of time before someone, or some group, outside your nation steps up to take the reigns that the people are so reluctant to take.
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Male 8,025
I don't think the left is always correct and the right is always wrong. I align with the right on about 30% of issues. I also hear people on the left say and see people on the left do unbelievably stupid shit that makes me wish they weren't grouped together with me. Did you miss the part where I said "Can the sane people on both sides come together and start agreeing on what is and isn't bullshit in their own "team"?"
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Male 1,906
My response was inspired, and written entirely based on that, HG.
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Male 1,906
That is how your post was worded, starting with "we on the 'left'" and then going on to paint the 'right' as wrong. But the reply wasn't about that, that was just an example, an aside, to show the main problem causing the people to become weak is division.
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Male 8,025
Then why would you accuse me of having a mentality that "my side" is always right and just? I specifically said there is bullshit in "my team".
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