Should You Kill the Fat Man? [Pic+]

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Philosophy Experiments- a site that presents interactive (and interesting) moral dilemmas, and analyzes your responses.
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Male 262
100% I tortured the guy. I also pushed the fatty off the bridge.
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Male 5,620
I was enjoying the page until I did the abortion activity. It wrongly concluded things about me based on my answers.
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Male 409
The problem I have is that they give you only two answers, and most of the time, neither fits the reason for my response. I realize this is part of the design of the test, to force you to choose, but I would argue it doesn`t really give an accurate measure.

For example, the last question asks, "if torture was the only way to save the city, would you torture the man?" The problem is that I disagree with the premise of the question, that torture is the only solution. So, I am penalized for being inconsistent not because I am inconsistent, but because I don`t follow the `garden path` of the quiz.
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Male 1,154
MeGrendel, There are 4 laws, but because one is labelled as the zero law, as a group they are the three laws.
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Male 714
In my mind there is a difference between personally driving a train over 4 people or 1 person, and personally killing no one or murdering someone because you think it will make you a hero. Murder or death by accident are not comparable.
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Male 689
easiest way to be moral.
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Male 689
i kept saying to myself, "would the bystander really know everything that was going on?" i mean would he know for certain that the fat man would stop the train or would he be able to assume, in enough time, that any action would change the scenario? probably not. that said, i would do nothing and let nature take its course.
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Male 7,636
kree_-[quote]I always follow the three laws of robotics when answering these questions. [/quote]
Four Laws, thank you very much.
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Male 13,624
That was a bit black and white with no middle ground
Lacking personal virtue, and hell,
No way would a fat guy derail a train??
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Male 4,431
I got 83%. The torture question was BS, though. Initially I said it`s morally wrong to torture ayone because we know that it doesn`t reliably give worthwhile information and often gives misinformation. However, the question said there`s a 75% chance the fat man would give the location of the bomb, so, *of course* I`d torture him versus the life of 1M people. That, to me, isn`t inconsistent. At all.
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Male 642
>>>Stay off the tracks, kids.<<<

So is true morality the act of never allowing yourself to be placed in a position that forces you to make one of these decisions in the first place.
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Male 333
I diverted the train to the branch with only one person on it. This was not a decision to end that person`s life, it was a decision to increase the odds of nobody dying. I know they were unable to get off the track, but nothing is certain until it actually happens. This makes no allowance for that.
Dropping Pudge in front of the train, however, is a deliberate action causing death, when results of the alternative (no action) are still unknown (no matter how certain they seem to be).
How much reality are we allowed to introduce here? I don`t do well with these things.
Stay off the tracks, kids.
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Male 17,512
"I got 100% consistency. I tortured and killed that fat guy."

Same here. But only after it was learned that he was the saboteur.
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Male 262
100% I tortured the guy. I also pushed the fatty off the bridge.
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Male 37,273
@Patchouly: Why? Because it`s logical, intelligent and not distracted by appeal to emotions? :-P
And don`t forget consistent: Liberal "values" change on a whim.

It would be nice if some of their terms were better defined (as others have mentioned).

Trying the 19 questions and "severe need" is... what?
Going to die? In severe need of alcohol? What?
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Male 1,154
I always follow the three laws of robotics when answering these questions.
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Male 6,435
The problem is there are more than 2 choices, also more things come into the equations.These were very basic and rudimentary. Neither of them were asking "why" any of this was happening.
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Female 7,865
No- I think they haven`t really got to grips with things. the questions are designed to make you think about how we should act as moral beings... Kantian ethics is very black and white- it operates on absolutes. Utilitarianism works on maximising happiness- context matters.The question about it always being wrong to save life- if avoidable doesn`t take the other thought experiment into account. I refused to torture because I didn`t like the odds..
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Male 4,746
Think the creator of this quiz was a Conservative? *rolls eyes*
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Male 1,692
I got 100%. I am not morally obligated to provide happiness for all. Every person has a different ideal towards happiness, I`d be nuts to try to placate all.
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Female 7,865
Rather odd test as it compares two ways at dealing with ethical problems..utilitarian, and Kantian, but doesn`t bring virtue into it... and in some cases if you look at them in a certain way then which version of utilitarianism also matters.
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Male 6,435
92% I didn`t torture the guy.
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Male 464
My god, the website was a dick to me. I was dissapoitned at my answers. What the hell?
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Male 1,692
Isnt this an old experiment used to designate sociopaths?
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Male 2,045
Many people answer one way, but act another. For example, if you answered "If you can save the lives of innocent people without reducing the sum total of human happiness, and without putting your own life at risk, you are morally obliged to do so." is true, you need to donate every cent beyond what is required to sustain you, to an organization that saves lives (cancer research, homeless, starving kids etc...). If you go to a movie or buy a computer, you are saying that your own entertainment is more important that saving others.
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Male 1,497
83% consistency, whatever that means. I`d like to think I can be highly irrational and make terrible snap choices that affect my life for many years.
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Male 7,636
"The first thing to note is that your consistency score is 100%. This is higher than the average score for this test (where higher is better), which is 78%."

And it had nothing to do with the man being fat, just that he was culpable.

Denogginizer-[quote]Also, no way a fat guy derails a train. [/quote]
Maybe he triggered the switch on the way down.
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Male 820
Also, no way a fat guy derails a train. The train would go through him like a hot knife through butter.
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Male 14,797
If I answer according to what would be expected in an ethics exam, I would have sacrificed a lot of lives, however, answering as what I know will result in the greatest societal utility, I always bump off the one chump.

Either way, I`m 100% consistent.

What would *I* do? It depends on how I would be judged.

So I guess that makes me a self-serving psychopath. But it really means I am capable of both modes of thinking; I can be warm and fuzzy and a second later I can turn it all off and be cold, calculating and remorseless.

I am not sure whether either side is real or fake. It`s just bi-modal thinking.
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Male 415
Meh, bit limited in how it views replies. There`s a huge difference between someone having a bad breakup and wanting sex and someone desperately seeking intimacy and wanting sex. Those two situations are not comparable, hence the morality should not be either.
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Male 820
I got 100% consistency. I tortured and killed that fat guy.
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Male 128
I`m not entirely sure I grasped the concept here. Sure, its morally wrong to torture people, however sometimes necessary. It still immoral, but so what? Doesn`t mean you cant or shouldn`t do it.
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Male 642
As usual failure to clearly define words used,happiness, torture, etc. Makes the whole exercise a waste of time for gathering data. For example I said that morality meant maximizing the happiness of the greatest number of people, yet I did not throw the fat man on the train tracks. The results said that I was inconsistent. Yet I argue that there are some definitions of "happiness" in which this action is perfectly consistent with my answer to the first four questions.
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Male 2,729
Link: Should You Kill the Fat Man? [Pic+] [Rate Link] - Philosophy Experiments- a site that presents interactive (and interesting) moral dilemmas, and analyzes your responses.
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